The Mythological Origins of Christianity Pt. 1 of 3

 

 

The Mythological Origins of Christianity

–Part One of Three–

 

 

By Thomas Keane (DoubtingThomas)

 

 

 

“The Hebrews merely used for their poetic imagery the characteristic beliefs of the people to whom they made direct reference.” — E. E. Goldsmith (from Ancient Pagan Symbols, p. 94)

 

“The religion of the Masters – the Babylonians and Assyrians – was transferred almost bodily into Christianity.” — Madame Blavatsky

 

 

 

Far from “the word of God”, the bible is simply a collection of stolen pagan mythology. The story of Adam and Eve and the Garden of Eden were taken from the Babylonian account. The Hebrew word Eden comes from an old Babylonian name for Mesopotamia, Gan-Eden, the garden of the Middle East. Noah’s Flood is just one of around four hundred flood accounts and the equivalent of the Ark and Mt. Ararat can be found in many of them. Even the names given to Noah’s sons are not original. And the recycled mythology continues with Moses, who is clearly fashioned after the Syrian Mises, and the ‘laws’ found in Exodus are obviously influenced by Hammurabi’s code. Egyptian scriptures even supplied the biblical Messiah. Between Jesus and the Egyptian Horus there are hundreds of similarities, much like those between Christ and Krishna. One of the oldest known civilizations, the Sumerians, were one of the first to keep a written record of their beliefs. The similarities between the stories written on these surviving clay tablets and the ones contained in the bible are so striking and so numerous it would be easier simply to direct you to a few websites that thoroughly catalog the parallels. You can find them here: 1, 2.

 

And let’s consider the numerology that is so prevalent in the bible. The bible is Hebrew mythology and this is why so many events in Jewish history take seven days or take place on the seventh day or year and require forty days or years to occur. SEVEN appears in the bible (KJV) a total of 668 times and the number FORTY appears a total of 158 times. Seven is the word for week in Hebrew but the world/universe being created in seven days fable is by no means original as almost every ancient cosmology was based on it. The Greeks believed their gods created the world in a week of seven days, and in the Hindu Purânas, Brahma does the same. You can find the names of these seven days in Hindu manuscripts as early as 5,000 B.C. And it wasn’t the Hebrews who first made the seventh day a sacred day. Hesiod (eighth century) said, “The seventh is the sacred day.” Plato wrote: “The gods, pitying the laborious nature of men ordained for them as a rest from all their labors, the succession of religious festivals.” The first of these was every seventh day. The sun god Apollo had the seventh day of every month dedicated to him, thus Sunday. Even the word Sabbath didn’t originate with the Hebrews. Derived from the Babylonian word Sabattu, meaning day of rest, it was observed by the Babylonians long before the Hebrews adopted it.

 

And consider the “tree of life”. Every ancient race has had its “tree of life.” Zeus gave the Hesperides a tree that bore golden apples (Gogard). Zeus placed Ladon, a serpent, at the base of the tree to guard it; with the Norse it was Yggdrasil, the ash, at the foot of which was Nidhogg, their serpent. For the Tibetans, the “tree of life” was Zampun, and with the Persians, it was Homa. The Hindu god, Siva, sent a fig tree to woman and prompted her to tempt her husband with the fruit. She obeyed, telling the man it would grant him immortality. After the man ate, Siva cursed him. “The mundane tree of life” was symbolized by the oak tree with the Druids. Even the Chinese had their “tree of knowledge,” Sung-Ming-Shu.

 

Even the name Adam is not Hebrew in origin. Adam Adami can be found in Chaldean scriptures that predate those of the Hebrews. Among some ancient Babylonian clay tablets an account of creation identical with that of the bible was found. The name of the first man? Adamu. And in The Prophecies by Ramutsariar, a Hindu book predating the bible by two thousand years, the creation myth is again almost identical. And the name of the first man? Adama. Oh, and the name of the first woman? Heva. Strange how the authors of the bible thought that simply removing a single letter was enough to lay claim to another’s work. This is the reason why one shouldn’t confuse the Ethiopia of the bible for the African Ethiopia. Return the A to the front of the word and you discover it comes from the Greek Aethiopia (mythic land of darkness and mystery).

 

So the God of the bible put Adam to sleep and removed a rib (bone) to create woman? Nothing new there. According to the Tahitans, their god, Taaroa, “put men to sleep for long ages,” and he also took a bone (Ivi) from man, and it became a woman.

 

Regarding Noah’s Ark, the word ark is Egyptian. It means a chest or box for preserving something sacred. Another idea that is by no means original; the Hindus had their Argha, the Greeks, their Cista, the Argonauts, their Argo. And don’t forget Pandora’s box. And the numbers in this story are obviously symbolic. Seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven. So many sevens.

 

And let’s consider Noah sending forth a raven and later three doves while seeking signs of land’s return. The Babylonian Noah, Utnapishtim, sent a dove, then a swallow, and finally a raven. The Babylonian ark rested on Mount Nisir, the Hindu ark on Mount Himalaya, and the Greek ark on Mount Parnassus. And the word Ararat, or Arath, is the Aramaic source of the word earth.

 

When Noah and his crew finally find dry land, they quickly build an altar and start making sacrifices to God. First, which animals were sacrificed? In other words, which animals were rendered extinct by this reckless and needless slaughter? The bible says God both saw and smelled these sacrifices and was pleased by their “sweet savor” and thus came the covenant with Noah to never again destroy the earth by a deluge. But to make sure he didn’t forget (!) his promise, God made a rainbow in the sky as a reminder. So, are we supposed to believe that the basic law of refraction hadn’t operated before this? So no rainbows resulted from the interaction of the sun and the rain in Adam’s day, not to mention during all those endless “begats”?

 

Zeus, Jupiter to the Romans, also became offended with his own creation. He also decided to drown them all, sparing only Deucalion, and Pyrrha, who had “found grace” in his eyes. He allowed them to escape in a boat which finally landed on Mt. Parnassus. The Babylonian account can be found on the tablets of Assurbanipal. Here Enlil, again, also offended by man’s wickedness, decides to destroy him with water, but Ea, the god of wisdom, learns of Enlil’s plan and tells a man, Utnapishtim, about it. Like Noah, Utnapishtim is tenth in line from the first man, and walks with Ea. Ea tells him to build a enormous boat, one that will hold he and his family and also, you guessed it, all the beasts and birds and creeping things. And as soon as it was finished it began to storm, a storm so great that even the lesser gods “trembled in fear.” It stormed for six days and nights and on the seventh it stopped. The boat floated around until it finally came to rest on Mount Nisir. It should be noted that Mt. Nisir sits between Medea and Armenia, making it practically identical with Ararat. Utnapishtim also sent out a dove, swallow, and raven when seeking land. He also built an altar upon making land and offered incense upon it. And, yes, the gods smell the “sweet savor” and gather around; and, Ishtar, “the lady of the rainbow,” hung out her multicolored necklace.

 

With the Persian and Hindu myths it is not physical birds and beasts that are brought into the ark but their seeds — “… (take) the seeds of sheep, oxen, men and women, dogs, and birds and every kind of tree and fruit, two of every kind, into the ark seal it up with a golden ring and make in it a door and window.” An avatar of Vishnu warns the Hindu Noah, Vaivasvata, about the flood and tells him to build a vessel for his family and bring on board plant seeds and a pair of animals. After the flood the boat comes to rest on Mount Himalaya. And the number of days the storm lasted coincides exactly with the number in the Hebrew account.

 

The Tepanecans of Mexico also reported a great flood that lasted exactly forty days and nights. The Society Islanders say the god Tangaloa, again angered by the wickedness of man, created such a mighty flood to punish them that only the mountaintops remained. And according to Inca mythology, the god Viracocha promised by the rainbow to never drown mankind again. And Bochica, a god of the Chibehas of Bogota, perched on a rainbow and quelled the flood. And even among the Jews there were additional Deluge myths; one depicting an angry God scalding the sinful antedilvians.

Many bible believers would try and argue that these other accounts were copied from the Hebrew account, however, it should be noted that the Chaldean, Hindu, Babylonian and Egyptian accounts predate the Hebrew versions by many centuries.

Also consider the names of Noah’s sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Taken from Maurice’s history of Hindustan: “It is related in Padmapooraun that Satyavrata, whose miraculous preservation from a general deluge is told at large in the Matsya, had three sons, the eldest of whom was named Jyapeti, or Lord of the Earth; the others were Charma and Sharma, which last words are in the vulgar dialects usually pronounced Cham and Sham …” In The City of God, St. Augustine uses these same forms, also Chanaan for Canaan.

 

Following the flood a man named Nimrod wanted to build a tower (tower of Babel) out of anger at God for drowning the race. He didn’t believe God would keep his promise (why would he) and thought there could be another mass murder. To quote Josephus verbatim: “He wanted to avenge himself on God for the destruction of his ancestors (weren’t they spared in the ark?) thus: he would build a tower so high that the waters of another flood, with which the world might be afflicted, would not be able to submerge it.” The Babylonian parallel ends similarly: “But all this they did only from fear of another deluge.” Even the name Babel (gate of God) came from the Akkadian Summerian Babili, about 3900 B.C., and means Gateway of God, one with the Greek “Gateway of the gods.”

 

Bible believers think the scriptural Pharaohs were three Egyptian kings. The fact that outside of the bible there is no account of these specific kings, particularly the cruel Pharaoh, doesn’t seem to bother them. There is also no record of Joseph, Moses, or even the captivity. The bible depicts Moses as practically destroying Egypt, yet if this were literally true, there should be some record of these events but there are none. And why is it that no direct reference to the Exodus can be found among any Egyptian inscription?

 

Speaking of Moses, this is another myth that is shared by many other mythologies. As depicted in the Orphic hymn to Bacchus, Mises was also found in a box floating upon the waters. Also, like Moses, Mises’ laws were written on … wait for it … two slabs of stone. Again like Moses he had a rod that he worked miracles with, and what could the rod turn itself into? That’s right, a serpent. Mises uses his rod to divide the rivers Orontes and Hydastus and he even strikes a rock with it to provide water for his thirsty army. The Egyptian Osiris was also put in a coffer or coffin and set adrift on the river Nile. Moses was discovered and raised by Thermuthis, which was also the name of a serpent sacred to Isis. The Greek lawgiver, Dionysius, was said to have held up two tables of stone on which the law was engraved.

 

Hammurabi of Babylon, a contemporary with Abraham, was given a code of laws by Shamash, the great sun god, which he delivered to his people. This code predates the Mosaic code by more than a thousand years. Regarding this similarity, I. Elliott Binns remarked: “The variety of cases provided for is much greater than in the Mosaic codes, but where they deal with the same matters there is an extraordinary similarity in their ordinances, especially in phraseology.” Was it the biblical God or this older code that was the source of the Mosaic code? The answer seems obvious.

 

The Egyptians, whom the Jews believed to be morally inferior, in fact had a well-developed sense of morality. You can find evidence of this in the Egyptian “Oath of Clearance,” which contains six of the ten commandments and existed thousands of years before the Jews were ever heard of.

 

It reads in part as follows:

 

I have not committed fraud and evil against men.

I have not diverted justice in the judgment hall.

I have not caused a man to do more than his day’s work.

I have not caused a slave to be ill-treated.

I have not taken milk from the mouths of children.

I have not stolen cattle.

I have not been weak.

I have not been wretched.

I have not been impious or impure…

 

 

This is the end of Part One.

 

Part Two can be found here:

 

https://doubtingthomas426.wordpress.com/2008/09/23/the-mythological-origins-of-christianity-pt-2-of-3/

 

 

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40 Responses to “The Mythological Origins of Christianity Pt. 1 of 3”

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  2. Very informative. Thanks.

  3. I find it interesting that there are so many similar creation stories, flood accounts, etc. across the world. It seems to me that many myths are based loosely on some sort of truth. I think most of what you said solidified my beliefs even more.

    Anyway, an interesting and thought provoking post, for the believer and non-believer. 🙂

    • TheBiggerPicture Says:

      You’re going to base your solidified belief system on “some sort of truth”???? You apparently are one of the many duped the author here clearly defines. And just cause it’s been repeated over and over does not make it truth. Geez where have you been these last 10 years?

  4. Jan Kouttjie Says:

    This is an old problem raised especially by Bultman. Jesus said that God gives his sun shine to all people irespective of their believes and attitude, good or bad. So mythologies are the reflection of men searching for God, for the unknown God ( Acts chapter 17). I think to a certain extent God can use this mythological expressions as a vehicle to communicate to man of what He is actually doing, of what He is revealing to man. Using our modern language is stupid, because people at that time could not undersatand it, as you also could not understand it with your intellectual and rationalistic scientific language, which is very poor and lack respect of God. So it is a matter of how far you can demythologize it. Can you say that the change experience by Jesus’ disciples and of Paul and millions of people is a myth?

  5. Charlie McClelland Says:

    I always wonder how we know which came first in these types of discussions. It seems to me if you begin with the idea that the Bible is God’s revelation of what actually happened, then it makes sense that non-Jewish cultures would reflect a similiar reality.

    If on the other hand, you begin with the idea that the Bible is simply the product of men attempting to establish their own religion borrowing from existing religions, then your conclusions seem to follow.

    Therefore, my question, in this discussion how can you tell which came first the reality the Bible records, or the reality of the other religions?

  6. Can you say that the change experience by Jesus’ disciples and of Paul and millions of people is a myth?

    It seems to me that this is exactly what DT is saying.

    Myth = creative lie.

    -Q

  7. Jan Kouttjie Says:

    You need to experience that reality yourself. But because that is relating to God, you need first to fear and respect God and believe that He exist. He is God, you cannot put Him under your microscope or you search Him with your telescope. God is the presuposition of the question of God. But man is under the bondage of his Ego( Ken Blamchard and Phil Hodges say: Ego is the abreviayion pf Edging God Out ) You edge Go out, and search Him with your mythological telescope of your mind and ask which come first? Is not that funny, man? God is God and you are man. Fear of God is the beginning of knowledge( Proverb 1: 7)

    • From where did you get such an idea if not from indoctrination right from childhood? Assuming a God amount to creating a God. Believing that a god exit amount to inventing a God. And you know what? All what men attribute to their invented Gods are just of their own making and never of their so called Gods which is not always there to defend himself.

  8. Jan Kouttjie Says:

    You need to experience that reality yourself. But because that is relating to God, you need first to fear and respect God and believe that He exist. He is God, you cannot put Him under your microscope or you search Him with your telescope. God is the presuposition of the question of God. But man is under the bondage of his Ego( Ken Blamchard and Phil Hodges say: Ego is the abreviation of Edging God Out ) You edge Go out, and search Him with your mythological telescope of your mind and ask which come first? Is not that funny, man? God is God and you are man. Fear of God is the beginning of knowledge( Proverb 1: 7)

  9. As always, in his zeal to justify his cringing misotheism, DT gets the cart before the horse.

    The Bible actually explains the progression from knowledge of God to mythology to atheism, exchanging the truth for a lie, in the first chapter of Romans. These shockingly similar mythologies are the remnants of truth, memories of a shared history of Eden, the Flood and Babel.

    –Sirius Knott

  10. As always, in his zeal to justify his cringing misotheism, DT gets the cart before the horse.

    That’s an ironic statement considering every Christian here has based his/her assessment of the mythological origins of Christianity on a presupposition.
    See, that’s the most annoying thing about debating “good” Christians. They’ve already decided what is the beginning… This outside force, God, Jehovah, Yawah, Allah, whatever you want to call the the montheistic Male god. They cannot think in terms of anything being opened end, they cannot think that they might be in error. Every argument against their particular worldview is not examined with an open mind, only with a pathological need to dispute it.

  11. Oh, like you don’t come here with your OWN presuppositions, handmaiden. That’s rich! The issue isn’t dogma, dear; it’s which dogma it’s best to be dogmatic about. You do believe in truth, right? How else could you dare call anyone wrong?

    But I do take issue with your assessment that people like me have a pathological need to dispute every argument against their particular worldview. 1. Are you suggesting there is no need to address an argument that claims to refute my worldview? 2. Is it only pathological if one of us “good” Christians does it? [And why would ANY Christian call the monotheistic male god, as you so feminazistically put it, by the name of Allah or refer to Him as a “force.” Watch Star Wars much? Please try to keep you non-presuppositional feminism in check and keep your religions straight.] Couldn’t this accusation of patholigical need equally apply to you? 3. What makes you assume I’M the one in error just because you’re unfortunate enough to be in disagreement with me?

    Remember, anyone who comes out of an argument with me still convinced of their own opinion just wasn’t listening.

    –Sirius Knott

    • Oh Sirius, you’re just not reading between the lines. What Handmaiden and people like myself are trying to say by “pathological” is that “ANYTHING” that is said or pointed out is “IMMEDIATELY” refuted, countered,denied, blocked, by an irrational, illogical, or “UNBELIEVABLE” explanation which gives god a pass on “EVERYTHING” he does, no matter how ugly, vile, corrupt,or murderous, his actions may be!!
      You are welcome to address an argument as much as you want, but “P L E A S E” try to give give us a little more logical, rational,and better answers than “faith”, “bible passages”, and “god works in mysterious ways” approach to try explaining things that you don’t understand.
      That’s how we got here in the first place. By trying to explain
      how and why things happened in the dawn of history by putting a “higher power” spin on it. We call that, “R E L I G I O N!”.

  12. Remember, anyone who comes out of an argument with me still convinced of their own opinion just wasn’t listening.

    So, you believe that if someone still doesn’t agree with you after you lay out your argument, they can’t have been listening? Because if they were listening, then they would have agreed with you?

    That rationalizing statement seems to support a need that is…well…..pathological.

    I call a spade a spade

    -Q

  13. WTF? sirius, This doesn’t have anything to do w/feminism. Honey, you are throwing buzz words out there like Rush Limblah. Criminys, I’ve read the bible, I’m pretty the monotheistic God is depicted as a he.

    Don’t change the subject.

    My point was, that christians start with a presupposition that they know the beginning. Look up presupposition & tell me I’m wrong.

    I’m not being “dogmatic” because my philosophy is open ended. I don’t assume to know the beginning or the the end.

    Next point: Is your view based on a pathological need? If you are a “real” christian yeah, I would say that it is. . I’m not implying that this assessment only applies to christians, though. Lots of crazy people are pathological.

  14. To reinforce my argument (as if it needs it) Sirius says : The Bible actually explains the progression from knowledge of God to mythology to atheism, exchanging the truth for a lie, in the first chapter of Romans. These shockingly similar mythologies are the remnants of truth, memories of a shared history of Eden, the Flood and Babel.

  15. krissmith777 Says:

    You say,

    “Many bible believers would try and argue that these other accounts were copied from the Hebrew account, however, it should be noted that the Chaldean, Hindu, Babylonian and Egyptian accounts predate the Hebrew versions by many centuries. ”

    Actually, this is a straw man.

    If you want the real arguments, then go here: http://www.christian-thinktank.com/gilgymess.html

  16. Great website, some very good posts. I have a question for the believers: if a man’s arm is chopped off, and his family prays that a new one grows in its place, will it happen? No, because that would be a medical impossibility. A scientific impossibility, if you prefer. In other words, God cannot perform any act that is outside the realm of science. Why not? Two possible answers: 1. God “created” scientific or physical laws when he created the universe, and he made them immutable. If so, then God isn’t really God. 2. There is no God.

    My point is that “God” means many different things to different people, just as “Love” does. Does Love “exist”? Not really – it’s just a concept Man created to better communicate feelings of lust, desire, extreme caring, etc. “God” is also that – a concept, created by Man, to communicate the unknown.

    Think about it – early Man had no science, so the Gods were invented to explain things Man could not comprehend, such as rain and thunder and lightning. Has it ever rained when there were no clouds present? Nope – and it never will.

    The advent of modern science was the death knell for God and other superstitions, but most people are afraid to relinquish their deeply held beliefs, since that would force them to admit that there is no life after death.

    For you Christians reading this, consider that there is no mention of the Holy Trinity in the Bible, no such thing as a Pope, no mention of Easter. Those concepts are manmade, not divinely created.

    Read Ezekiel 23, especially verses 19-20: “she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. ”

    Wow, guys with donkey dicks that shoot horse jism? Is that really the Word of God?

    Look it up – it’s in there. Why, I have no idea, but that passage alone proves to me that the Bible is literature, not history.

  17. islam is the only true religion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  18. Excellent website!

    Religion belongs to the “infancy of our species”! In my experience, whenever I have discussed beliefs with christians, I have noticed how little they know their own bible, and when confronted with the errors, contradictions an poor morals presented in it, they always resort to the “you’ve got to have faith” and “I am free to interpret the bible” arguments which are absolute rubbish.

    Also, referring to the bible as the truth, implies that this “god” actually exists: Can anybody of the belivers here produce this god?

    I did not think so.

  19. I personally believe that all these fantasies conjured up for all these various religions stem from actual events, but NONE of them are as FANTASTIC or GODLY as they are presented. Maybe Noah built an ark, but NOTHING like what is depicted in the bible. I think some of these people may have existed, but think about how much time has gone by; generation after generation has turned the simplest things into the wildest events and made them out to be the work of some almighty creator of everything… When SCIENCE tells me this “God” exists, I’ll believe otherwise. I think these ignorant people are just so blind and scared, they HAVE to believe in something higher, because the thought that WE are the only ones scares them. There IS no GOD, or anything else in mythology. And I think people WANT so badly to believe, so they refuse to be told otherwise, when CLEARLY the only things in this world are us, and nature (and space counts as nature), so as much as I’m against religion, let’s just let the ignorant believers continue to believe. If it keeps the world from ensuing an all-out chaos, with the belief that “God” would punish everybody, then so be it. LOL but it is pretty ridiculous though, that millions and millions of people are THAT STUPID that they actual BELIEVE the fairytales told by this “bible”. I always did think it was bullsh*t.

    • It is not our fault at all in any way. We are all victims of our societies. We were born as human beings and not as Christians, moslems, Buddhist, Jew, Nazist or whatever religious or political group known to history. But immediately our parents and the society started feeding our tender minds with stupideologies that they were also fed with and as we grow older bodily our minds were entangled with these doctrines. Only few of us ever dare to question these unnecessary burden and ugly ways of life.

  20. It simply says to us that millions of people utterly refuse to take responsibility for their own actions and following fuck-ups, hence the need for a God or his prophets as a scapegoat when everything goes pear-shaped. Religions and it’s belief in it should be classed as a mental disorder rather than something that’s real. Or a mass delusion.

  21. It is quite obvious that monotheism evolved out of polytheism. in the beginning there were multiple gods, then there was one, and the other gods were reduced to Angels etc.

    One of the first religions to actively make this progression is Zoroastrianism. Zoroaster didn’t make a new religion, he took his present religion, took one god (namely Omradz, called him Ahura Mazda (the wise lord)) and made him no1, the other gods were reduced to angels. or course Zoroastrianism is a dualist religion, Arhiman being the adversery. now The big difference is that Arhiman is NOT created by god,because god can only create pure and good, nothing evil could ever come from God. For that reason alone, Zoroastrianism is far more logically consistent than other monotheistic religions.

    One of the keypoints of zoroastrianism is also the issue of heaven and hell, we as people have to choose sides during our lives, we either choose good, or evil. At the end of our lives, when we die, all our actions are weighted. If we did more good than evil, we go to Heaven, if we did more evil than good we go to hell, and if both are in perfect balance we go to purgatory.

    THis heaven/hell thing is -via the jews – incorporated into christianity. Is it how god works? Nobody seemed to go the Purgatory before Zoroaster existed, so my guess is NO.

    Still I can see how people think the similarities confirm their beliefs rather than make them question it. It’because they NEED to belief, because without belief, then have no reason to live. It is not easy to live and not believe there is a higher force looking out for you. Being alone can be very scary so most people belief out of fear. Fear of thinking that ‘this’ is all there is, that when there loved ones die, they are just a heap of dirt and no one will be waiting in heaven. Fear of not living forever. And so they are comforted by belief, it wraps round them like a nice warm blanket on a cold night, it being just what they need. And Nothing will ever take it away from them.

    But coming back to polytheism. Seeing as polytheism was there BEFORE monotheism, and therefore older, how come we seem to consider monotheism superior? Surely when it comes to godly matters, what was first is more true? all the rest is changed and warped by human minds. If there were multiple gods in the beginning, what happened to them now? Did they die? to think all the similarities prove god really exists is all fine and well, but that doesn’t explain what happened to the other gods we so conveniently forgot.

  22. Come to think of it, Christianity is really a polytheistic religion too. You have God, and then his son – who is really a sort of half god. Then there is the holy gost (well they do speak of hte holy trinity), but who on earth is the holy gost? If he is god himself, then there cannot be a trinity, for there to be a trinity the holy gost will need to be a separate entity for sure?

    Never quite understood that one. Asked a few catholics but they didn’t know either.

  23. ikke,

    Thanks for your comments. Very nice bit of information. Always nice to encounter someone who is capable of seeing beyond the boundaries of ego based god worship. And it isn’t just the Trinity but the bible itself that supports a polytheistic view as it repeatedly mentions other gods and gives examples of their Christian witnessed powers. The writers of the bible clearly believed in the reality of other gods.

    Thanks again,

    DoubtingThomas

  24. I’m 70 years old and have been teaching World History for over 40 years.
    Although I was raised a Christian, I obviously have done tons of reading about which leads one back to Egypt. The pharaoh was considered God and the son of God and the son of the sun. It was said that he was born of a virgin and resurrected at death and was a tripartite soul, in other words a trinity. The reason for this is because, according to the myth, when the pharaoh died he was resurrected, but he descended to the lower world to be one with his father Osiris, and then ascended to the sky to be one with the sun god Re and then was reincarnated as the pharaoh. So, the pharaoh was three souls. Every year on the 25th of December, the miscalculation of the Winter Solstice, the pharaoh’s birthday was celebrated with a madonna and child in a manger with a cow. The Egyptian moral code, upon which Moses was raised, was made up of 42 commandments, usually called ‘the 42 Sins’ or ‘the 42 negative confessions’, connected with Mayet, the goddess of truth. The seven day week comes from the ancient observation by astronomers over years of observation of the sky that there are seven moving bodies in the sky that can be seen to move by the naked eye–the sun, the moon, and the five closest planets to the earth: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. The story of Noah’s Ark comes from the Sumerian epic–the Epic of Gilgamesh, wherein the 11th chapter there is the story of a flood and the building of an ark and the saving of pairs of animals, which was done by man favored by the gods who was called Utnapishtim. There is no geological evidence of any complete flooding of the earth. All cultures in the world are in agreement in believing that God is the creator. All structured religions are made up in man’s attempt to bring some meaning to life. However, a structured religion is really an oxymoron when you think about it. No one knows who or what to believe and religious ideas shouldn’t be bound up. As someone has said, to define God is to limit God. If someone is truly religious they would honor and protect God’s creations and treat others equally as their brothers and sisters. Also, is asked what religion you are, you should say, if your name is Smith that you are a Smithist and if you are a Brown, a Brownist, and if you are a Clinton, then a Clintonist. Get the idea?

  25. It would make for better reading if it were sourced.

  26. Thank you for sharing the details. I found the info quite helpful.

  27. ron hayter Says:

    good stuff. 🙂

  28. I like the Seer. We are of a like mind. Maybe because we are about the same age.

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  31. mery borda Says:

    i do wish you would get in touch the the Hebrew roots of the faith, then you would learn the name Adam is an english translation of the name Ish. break the wall between jew and gentile. A messianic congregation would do you god. You Know what a Messianic congregation is , don’t you .all in love . in Messiah Yeshua for the glory of the father .amein

  32. Jesus (Yeshua) a practicing Jew who was a faithful steward of Judaism only! Christianity (a pagan religion developed in Rome from Paul’s(Shauls) extended disciples) did not exist neither was it taught by Yeshua. Jesus’s (Yeshua) only true religion was Judaism (Essene). There was never any such thing as Judaeo Christianity as all of the books of the bible are by Jewish authors only! The present bible was trimmed down by the Gentiles (Constantine the Great & Eusebuis) in a bid to Hijack Jesus (Yeshua) from Judaism as anti-Jesus teachings are paramount throughout Christianity! The early Christian movement in Rome became ant-Semitic and removed all Jewish elements from the early church. In a bundle Christianinity is a roman pagan religion. People say that 3000 years of christianity can not be wrong…? Yes it very much can be..We have brought “God-Yahweh ” to our level. The New Testament, or B’riyt HaHhadashah in Hebrew, was written by Hebrews, for Hebrews, in an Hebraic Culture. In order to truely understand the New Testament it must be understood through its original Hebraic context. While the only manuscripts known to exist are in Greek (with the possible exception of the book of Matthew) the evidence suggests that much of it was originally written in Hebrew and afterwards translated into Greek. We have Americanized and Westernized it to all end .When did Yeshua end up white? With blonde long hair? Jews kept short hair during that time frame.Obviously Some of your information is flawed and is proven flawed some of it is right on..which shows you have only met the middle guy. Do you ever stop and think that obviously Constantine a pagan sun god worshiper wanted worship to fall on Sunday? The true Sabbath is the 7th day not the 1’st …Or how about the trinity is pagan made up and Yeshua was not born on Dec 25…he was born during Sukkot ? Maybe he was not even born in a manger ? But maybe an Inn because did you know according to Jewish law that if you are pregnant during the festival of Sukkot you are able to go to an INN and not reside in a Sukkah. I am sure you did not. Because you know NOTHING of Hebrew culture. Maybe translational issues happened (Which they did). Gilgamesh and his flood story account to only half of the flood stories….Do you not think that since Hebrews kept Oral tradition that maybe when Babylon was scattered each went their own way with the same story only to be twisted later on…? The many scrolls and thousands of fragments uncovered in the Dead Sea Caves were written from between 100 CE and 70AD. Of all of those scrolls and fragments, approximately 90% are written in Hebrew while only 5% are in Aramaic and 5% in Greek…. While most of the Hebrew inscriptions use the late Hebrew script, some of them use the more ancient early (paleo) There are many other books aside from what has been canonized. The book of Maccabees,Jasher,Baruch and many many many more….You have only touched lightly on Gnostic gospels. I went through this very same thing myself and searched for years for the truth…you will always find someone countering your claim. I hope you find the truth you are looking for. Or have already found….. http://bethhamashiach.com/whenwasYeshuaborn.htm

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  34. I think it is most probable, from the Old Testament description and total lack of findings in the Levant, that Moses was from Nubia and led the Exodus down the river system to Ethiopia and then across the Red Sea to Yemen. The Moses traditions are strongest in Ethiopia, where have the earliest version of the Torah (40 Laws instead of 613) and where the oldest inscriptions mentioning Hebrew are found at Adi Kaweh. The Jewish “priestly gene” is also found in its densest concentration in Black Africa.

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  36. JT Gordon Says:

    I think “true believers” of near any relition need to step away from their engrained learning and consider this subject with a TRULY open mind–though sadly, I recognize from experience that this is impossible for many. I have seen the words of MANY skeptics, ready and even anxious to happily CHANGE THEIR MIND and believe—and yet, in my experience, “true believers” are unable to sincerely consider that they could be wrong. Words to the effect of: “Because I KNOW the truth.” Hmmm. If you can’t TRULY admit that you COULD be wrong for ANY reason, you should be able to see that red flag flying high above your head. lol

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