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“A man’s ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.” – Albert Einstein

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  • I see you! No you don’t! Ex 33:20“Thou canst not see my face, for there shall be no man see me and live.” AND John 6:46“Not that any man hath seen the Father.” Jesus is speaking. BUT THEN Ex 33:11“The Lord spake unto Moses face to face.” And Jacob claimed, “For I have seen God face to face & my life is preserved.” Gen 32:30. AND DON’T FORGET Deut 34:10“And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face.”

 

  • Who and how many? John 10:30“I and my Father are one.” (Jesus’s words). John 14:9 – “He that hath seen me hath seen the Father.” John 17:22“…even as we are one.” (Jesus’s words). AND THEN – John 14:28“My Father is greater than I.” (Jesus’s words). Luke 18:19“And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? None is good, save one, that is, God.”

 

  • Jesus can’t be the Messiah – If Jesus is the son of God and Joseph’s seed had nothing to do with his creation (Mary was a virgin after all), then he isn’t Joseph’s son and is not of the line of David which is a requirement of being the Messiah.

 

  • Stop confusing the two – Luke is the only book to mention the angel of the Lord visiting any shepherds to tell them of Jesus’ birth. And only Matthew mentions the ‘wise men’. There is absolutely no evidence that the shepherds and the wise men are the same people.

 

  • Why can’t anyone agree on such an amazing event? – Matthew, Mark and Luke mention the following events at the crucifixion: the veil of the temple being rent and it becoming dark from the sixth to the ninth hour, however only Matthew mentions that there was an earthquake, and the graves opened and bodies of the saints arose and went into Jerusalem, appearing to many (so beating Jesus to the resurrection). Only John speaks of Jesus’ side being pierced.

 

  • Jesus, such an inapropriately shy guy – Only Matthew mentions that the Jews asked Pilate for a guard to prevent the body of Jesus from being stolen by the disciples, and for the tomb to be sealed. No wonder the Jews don’t accept Jesus as the Messiah. Considering Jesus made no appearances to any who wasn’t already a believer after his ‘resurrection’, the Jews who believed the disciples would try and steal the body must have believed that is exactly what occurred.

 

  • An Inconsistant Resurrection – Matthew says that there was an earthquake at Jesus’ tomb and an angel came down, rolled back the stone and sat upon it, then spoke to Mary Magdalene and Mary, mother of Jesus. Then Jesus appears and they go to tell the disciples. Mark says that the women who visited the tomb found the stone rolled away, entered the tomb and saw an angel sitting on the right side. The angel speaks to them and Jesus appears to Mary Magdalene. Luke says the women found the stone rolled away and entered the tomb. Two angels appeared to them. John says Mary Magdalene found the stone rolled away and told Peter and John, who went to the tomb and entered it. Mary stooped down and looked into the tomb, sees two angels, one at the head and one at the feet. They spoke to her. Jesus the appeared to her, but she fails to recognize him at first!

 

  • Does any of this make a lick of sense to anyone? – Whom Jesus appeared to after the resurrection once again differs depending on the book. Matthew says an angel at the tomb told the two Marys, and that Jesus also told them, to tell the disciples to meet him in Galilee (thank God they were there). The disciples then went to a mountain previously agreed upon, and met Jesus there. This would be Jesus’ only appearance, except to the two Marys. Matthew devotes only five verses to this visit with the disciples. Mark says that Jesus walked with two of the disciples in the country, and that they told the rest of the disciples, who refused to believe. Later he appeared to the eleven disciples at mealtime. Luke says two followers went, the same day that Jesus rose from the dead, to Emmaus, a village eight miles from Jerusalem, and there Jesus joined them but was unrecognized. It wasn’t until later, while eating a meal together that they recognize Jesus, who then promptly disappears. Returning with impossible haste back to Jerusalem, they told the disciples their experience, and suddenly Jesus appeared among them, frightening them. Jesus then eats and preaches to them. John says Jesus appeared to the disciples the evening of the day he arose, in Jerusalem, where they were hiding. He breathed the Holy Ghost upon them (?), but Thomas was not present and refused to believe. Eight days later Jesus joined the disciples again at the same place, and this time he convinced Thomas. Once more Jesus made an appearance to the disciples at the sea of Tiberias but again was not recognized. After telling them to cast their nets on the other side of the boat, Jesus becomes known to them and prepares bread and fish for them. They all eat together as they converse.

 

  • I’m sorry but you’re not on the list – Both Paul and Peter claim that none who lived between Moses and Christ are eligible for everlasting life AND YET, Jesus says, “When ye shall see Abraham and Isaac, and Jacob and all the prophets, in the Kingdom of God…” Luke 13:28.

 

  • Why the big hurry? – Mark 16:19 – In Mark Jesus rises from the dead, gets everything done and ascends into heaven all in one day.

 

  • Why are there armys of God at all? – II Kings 19:35 – Why does God need men to die fighting his battles at all if he can send an angel, who in one night, kills 185,000 Assyrians who are threatening Jerusalem?

 

  • We may need a judge’s ruling on this one – Lev 19:15 God says, “In righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbor.” But in Matt 7:1 Jesus says, “…judge not that ye be not judged.”

 

  • Yes, but it doesn’t say impossible! – Prov 18:11 “The rich man’s wealth is his strongest city.” But in Mark 10:25 Jesus teaches, “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.”

 

  • Here forever, gone tomorrow – Eccles. 1:4 “The earth abideth forever.”  But in II Peter 3:10“The earth … and the works that are therein shall be burned up.”

 

  • Keep it holy, unless the game’s on – Ex 20:8 “Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.” But in Romans 14:5 Paul equivocates: “One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.”

 

  • Don’t forget to turn the other cheek before you pluck out his eye – Ex 21:24 “An eye for and eye and a tooth for a tooth.” But in Matt 5:38, 39 Jesus says to turn the other cheek.

 

  • Sunday, Bloody Sunday – Ex 20:13 “Thou shalt not kill.” Relayed by Moses, a murderer. He would also mastermind the slaughter of thousands during the long march to reach Palestine. And not long after laying down this holy law, in Ex 32:27 Moses ordered: “Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.” And in Luke 22:36 even Jesus said, “… and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.” What is a sword for but to kill another?

 

  • Should a sinner never procreate then? – Ez 18:20 “The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father…” But God told Moses in Ex 20:5: “…for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation…”

 

  • God is Love … Unless you piss him off! – Jer 17:4“…for ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn for ever.” These are God’s words. But in I John 4:16 “God is love.”

 

  • Mercy, mercy me – I Sam 15:2, 3 “Thus saith the Lord … Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.” AND Ex 12:29 “And it came to pass, that at midnight the Lord smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.” Oh, but James 5:11 “…that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.” People who abhor the killing of babies sing praises to this author of wholesale bloodshed against them.

 

  • It’s all about the bloodshed, baby – In Romans 15:33 Paul speaks of “…the god of Peace.” And Christians refer to Jesus as the Prince of Peace. But Jesus himself said in Matt 10:34 “…I came not to send peace, but a sword.” And in the Old Ex 15:3, God is described thusly, “The Lord is a man of war”

 

  • It was the Aliens I tell ya! – Both Elijah (II Kings 2:11) and Enoch (Gen 5:24) were taken bodily into heaven but Jesus claims this distinction only for himself in John 3:13 “And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.”

 

  • Depends on who you ask, I guess – In Matthew 5:32 that a man may divorce his wife for ‘fornication’. But in Luke and Mark Jesus says divorce is not permitted for any reason and, “Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery; and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.” Luke 16:18.

 

  • Vampirism – The Old Testament God made a covenant with Noah and Abraham that the eating of blood would not be part of the Jewish diet, but Jesus offers his blood symbolically to be drunk by the disciples during the Last Supper. The Catholics actually believe the ceremonial wine they drink ‘becomes’ the blood of Jesus upon consumption.

 

  • Make room for the Gentile ‘dogs’ – The bible makes it very clear that only the Jews are the chosen people, Jesus even calls Gentiles “dogs”. But in Romans 2:10 it says God will give “glory, honor and peace to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile.” So the Gentile is welcome, but needs to know their place (beneath the Jew).

 

  • Paul: Writer of his own rules – According to Paul, “Where there is no law (before Moses) there is no transgression.” Romans 4:15. So God killed all those people for nothing then? Certainly Adam and Eve were punished before any law was laid down.

 

  • Are these guys two different people or something? – Paul’s ‘biography’ is outlined in Acts and his ‘autobiography’ is written in Galatians. They are completely contradictory.

 

  • The Son of God, NOT the Son of Joseph – When listing the ancestry of Jesus (which should only be one: God), Matthew compromises 28 generations and Luke lists 43. Only David, Joseph, Salathiel and Zorobabel appear in both lists. Jesus is simply not an ancestor of David as Joseph’s seed had nothing to do with his creation. Therefore, Jesus could not be the Messiah. AND YET, Jesus states in Rev. 22:16 “I am the root and the offspring of David.”

 

  • What? No one had a watch? – The time of the crucifixion is reported in Mark as the third hour (9am) but in John it is the sixth hour (noon).

 

  • So they couldn’t tell time either? – The time of the resurrection, according to Matthew, was Sunday at dawn, and in Mark the sun was rising, and in John it was dark.

 

  • Same event, SO many different versions – According to Matthew, those witnessing the crucifixion are: many afar off, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and the mother of Zebedee’s children. But Mark and Luke tell of many afar off, Mark includes Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James the Less. John states Jesus’ mother stood at the cross, along with her sister and Mary Magdalene.

 

  • Was there a guard or not? – Only the book of Matthew depicts a request for a guard to be placed at the door to Jesus’ tomb and for it to be sealed.

 

  • More evidence that the bible can’t be relied on – Those who visit the tomb, according to Matthew, the two Marys. Mark says it was the two Marys, Joses and Salome. Luke says the two Marys, Joanna, other women and Peter. John says Mary Magdalene alone (!?), and later Peter and John.

 

  • Yeah, that makes sense – In the book of Matthew it says the guard at the tomb of Jesus was paid to tell everyone that the disciples stole Jesus’ body. No other Gospel mentions this. So let me understand, the guard requested by the Jews, who believed the disciples were going to steal Jesus’ body, and assigned by Pilate to guard Jesus’ tomb, claims to have witnessed the disciples stealing Jesus’ body just as the Jews had feared would occur and that Jesus wasn’t in fact resurrected from the dead and Matthew quickly explains that, oh yeah, he was paid to say that.

 

  • The Inconsistincies of The AscensionMatthew & John do not mention the ascension of Jesus into heaven at all. Mark casually states Jesus was received into heaven after talking to the disciples in Jerusalem. Luke says Jesus led the disciples to Bethany and while he blessed them, he was parted from them and carried up into heaven. Such a significant event and yet treated so off-hand and perfunctory and only two of the apostles mention it and they can’t agree on the location. But then Acts contradicts all four stating that Jesus visited the apostles for forty days and “…while they beheld, he was taken up: and a cloud received him out of their sight.” Acts 1:3-11. AND Paul states 500 people saw Jesus, even claiming he (Paul) saw him. I Cor. 15:6, 8. AND it reveals the primitive way the writers of the bible thought. WHERE DID THEY THINK HEAVEN WAS? Floating on some cloud somewhere so Jesus could just glide on up and come in for a perfect landing on an airstrip made of gold?

 

  • Why doesn’t the math in the bible EVER add up? – According to Matthew there were 63 generations between Adam and Jesus. How can this be if men such as Adam (930 years) and Methuselah (969 years) lived so long? And did any women live that long? If not, why not? Is that why men had so many wives and concubines?

 

  • NEW vs. OLD (different religions, different gods) – The Old and New Testaments seem to represent two different religions and two different gods. The God of the Old is all about the Jews and the Gentiles (non Jews) are basically doomed. The God of the New basically reverses this, even consigning his former favorites to burn in hell for continuing to trust in the ‘Old Promise’. AND if one believes the words of Joseph Smith (Mormonism) then God changes his mind once again (and in a pretty drastic way, at that), the same of one who believes in Mohammed’s words.

 

  • The Two Gods of the Bible – God of the Old Testament would enact great and immediate revenge on those who opposed him or challenged him. The New Testament God, by comparison, is practically impotent. Are people aware that the reason the old and new testament are usually separate books is because they represent two different religions and two different gods?

 

  • I need a little clarification here – John 3:36 says only belief on Jesus is necessary to get into heaven but James 2:26 says “…Faith without works is dead.” suggesting that more than just belief in Jesus is required. So which is it?

 

  • Incest is best … or not – Why is incest or brothers having sex with brother’s widows etc depicted in the bible but in Lev. 18:6, 9, 15, 16, 20 it clearly says it is a no-no? “None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness:… The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover … Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy daughter in law: she is thy son’s wife; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness … Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy brother’s wife: it is thy brother’s nakedness … Moreover thou shalt not lie carnally with thy neighbour’s wife, to defile thyself with her.”

 

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I see you! No you don’t!

Posted in -BIBLICAL INCONSISTINCIES with tags , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , on December 11, 2007 by DoubtingThomas

Ex 33:20“Thou canst not see my face, for there shall be no man see me and live.” AND John 6:46“Not that any man hath seen the Father.” Jesus is speaking. BUT THEN Ex 33:11“The Lord spake unto Moses face to face.” And Jacob claimed, “For I have seen God face to face & my life is preserved.” Gen 32:30. AND DON’T FORGET Deut 34:10“And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face.”

Who and How Many?

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John 10:30“I and my Father are one.” (Jesus’s words). John 14:9 – “He that hath seen me hath seen the Father.” John 17:22“…even as we are one.” (Jesus’s words). AND THEN – John 14:28“My Father is greater than I.” (Jesus’s words). Luke 18:19“And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? None is good, save one, that is, God.”

Jesus can’t be the Messiah

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If Jesus is the son of God and Joseph’s seed had nothing to do with his creation (Mary was a virgin after all), then he isn’t Joseph’s son and is not of the line of David which is a requirement of being the Messiah.

Stop confusing the two

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Luke is the only book to mention the angel of the Lord visiting any shepherds to tell them of Jesus’ birth. And only Matthew mentions the ‘wise men’. There is absolutely no evidence that the shepherds and the wise men are the same people.

Why can’t anyone agree on such an amazing event?

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Matthew, Mark and Luke mention the following events at the crucifixion: the veil of the temple being rent and it becoming dark from the sixth to the ninth hour, however only Matthew mentions that there was an earthquake, and the graves opened and bodies of the saints arose and went into Jerusalem, appearing to many (so beating Jesus to the resurrection). Only John speaks of Jesus’ side being pierced.

Jesus, such an inapropriately shy guy

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Only Matthew mentions that the Jews asked Pilate for a guard to prevent the body of Jesus from being stolen by the disciples, and for the tomb to be sealed. No wonder the Jews don’t accept Jesus as the Messiah. Considering Jesus made no appearances to any who wasn’t already a believer after his ‘resurrection’, the Jews who believed the disciples would try and steal the body must have believed that is exactly what occurred.

An Inconsistant Resurrection

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Matthew says that there was an earthquake at Jesus’ tomb and an angel came down, rolled back the stone and sat upon it, then spoke to Mary Magdalene and Mary, mother of Jesus. Then Jesus appears and they go to tell the disciples. Mark says that the women who visited the tomb found the stone rolled away, entered the tomb and saw an angel sitting on the right side. The angel speaks to them and Jesus appears to Mary Magdalene. Luke says the women found the stone rolled away and entered the tomb. Two angels appeared to them. John says Mary Magdalene found the stone rolled away and told Peter and John, who went to the tomb and entered it. Mary stooped down and looked into the tomb, sees two angels, one at the head and one at the feet. They spoke to her. Jesus then appeared to her, but she fails to recognize him at first!

Does any of this make a lick of sense to anyone?

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Whom Jesus appeared to after the resurrection once again differs depending on the book. Matthew says an angel at the tomb told the two Marys, and that Jesus also told them, to tell the disciples to meet him in Galilee (thank God they were there). The disciples then went to a mountain previously agreed upon, and met Jesus there. This would be Jesus’ only appearance, except to the two Marys. Matthew devotes only five verses to this visit with the disciples. Mark says that Jesus walked with two of the disciples in the country, and that they told the rest of the disciples, who refused to believe. Later he appeared to the eleven disciples at mealtime. Luke says two followers went, the same day that Jesus rose from the dead, to Emmaus, a village eight miles from Jerusalem, and there Jesus joined them but was unrecognized. It wasn’t until later, while eating a meal together that they recognize Jesus, who then promptly disappears. Returning with impossible haste back to Jerusalem, they told the disciples their experience, and suddenly Jesus appeared among them, frightening them. Jesus then eats and preaches to them. John says Jesus appeared to the disciples the evening of the day he arose, in Jerusalem, where they were hiding. He breathed the Holy Ghost upon them (?), but Thomas was not present and refused to believe. Eight days later Jesus joined the disciples again at the same place, and this time he convinced Thomas. Once more Jesus made an appearance to the disciples at the sea of Tiberias but again was not recognized. After telling them to cast their nets on the other side of the boat, Jesus becomes known to them and prepares bread and fish for them. They all eat together as they converse.

I’m sorry but you’re not on the list

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Both Paul and Peter claim that none who lived between Moses and Christ are eligible for everlasting life AND YET, Jesus says, “When ye shall see Abraham and Isaac, and Jacob and all the prophets, in the Kingdom of God…” Luke 13:28.

Why the big hurry?

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Mark 16:19 – In Mark, Jesus rises from the dead, gets everything done and ascends into heaven all in ONE day. Why the big hurry? And why is Mark the only book to depict such a short timeline?

Why are there armys of God at all?

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II Kings 19:35 – Why does God need men to die fighting his battles at all if he can send an angel, who in one night, kills 185,000 Assyrians who are threatening Jerusalem?

We may need a judge’s ruling on this one

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Lev 19:15 God says, “In righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbor.” But in Matt 7:1 Jesus says, “…judge not that ye be not judged.”

Yes, but it doesn’t say impossible!

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Prov 18:11 “The rich man’s wealth is his strongest city.” But in Mark 10:25 Jesus teaches, “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.”

Here forever, gone tomorrow

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Eccles. 1:4 “The earth abideth forever.”  But in II Peter 3:10“The earth … and the works that are therein shall be burned up.”

Keep it holy, unless the game’s on

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Ex 20:8 “Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.” But in Romans 14:5 Paul equivocates: “One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.”

Don’t forget to turn the other cheek before you pluck out his eye

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Ex 21:24 “An eye for and eye and a tooth for a tooth.” But in Matt 5:38, 39 Jesus says to turn the other cheek.

Sunday, Bloody Sunday

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Ex 20:13 “Thou shalt not kill.” Relayed by Moses, a murderer. He would also mastermind the slaughter of thousands during the long march to reach Palestine. And not long after laying down this holy law, in Ex 32:27 Moses ordered: “Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.” And in Luke 22:36 even Jesus said, “… and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.” What is a sword for but to kill another?

Should a sinner never procreate then?

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Ez 18:20 “The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father…” But God told Moses in Ex 20:5: “…for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation…”

God is Love … Unless you piss him off!

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Jer 17:4“…for ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn for ever.” These are God’s words. But in I John 4:16 “God is love.”

Mercy, mercy me

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I Sam 15:2, 3 “Thus saith the Lord … Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.” AND Ex 12:29 “And it came to pass, that at midnight the Lord smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.” Oh, but James 5:11 “…that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.” People who abhor the killing of babies sing praises to this author of wholesale bloodshed against them.

It’s all about the bloodshed, baby

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In Romans 15:33 Paul speaks of “…the god of Peace.” And Christians refer to Jesus as the Prince of Peace. But Jesus himself said in Matt 10:34 “…I came not to send peace, but a sword.” And in the Old Ex 15:3, God is described thusly, “The Lord is a man of war”

It was the Aliens I tell ya!

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Both Elijah (II Kings 2:11) and Enoch (Gen 5:24) were taken bodily into heaven but Jesus claims this distinction only for himself in John 3:13 “And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.”

Depends on who you ask, I guess

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Matthew 5:32 states that a man may divorce his wife for ‘fornication’. But in Luke and Mark Jesus says divorce is not permitted for any reason and, “Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery; and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.” Luke 16:18.

Vampirism

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The Old Testament God made a covenant with Noah and Abraham that the eating of blood would not be part of the Jewish diet, but Jesus offers his blood symbolically to be drunk by the disciples during the Last Supper. The Catholics actually believe the ceremonial wine they drink ‘becomes’ the blood of Jesus upon consumption.

Make room for the Gentile ‘dogs’

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The bible makes it very clear that only the Jews are the chosen people, Jesus even calls Gentiles “dogs”. But in Romans 2:10 it says God will give “glory, honor and peace to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile.” So the Gentile is welcome, but needs to know their place (beneath the Jew).

Paul: Writer of his own rules

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According to Paul, “Where there is no law (before Moses) there is no transgression.” Romans 4:15. So God killed all those people for nothing then? Certainly Adam and Eve were punished before any law was laid down.

Are these guys two different people or something?

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Paul’s ‘biography’ is outlined in Acts and his ‘autobiography’ is written in Galatians. They are completely contradictory.

The Son of God, NOT the Son of Joseph

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When listing the ancestry of Jesus (which should only be one: God), Matthew compromises 28 generations and Luke lists 43. Only David, Joseph, Salathiel and Zorobabel appear in both lists. Jesus is simply not an ancestor of David as Joseph’s seed had nothing to do with his creation. Therefore, Jesus could not be the Messiah. AND YET, Jesus states in Rev. 22:16 “I am the root and the offspring of David.”

What? No one had a watch?

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The time of the crucifixion is reported in Mark as the third hour (9am) but in John it is the sixth hour (noon).

So they couldn’t tell time either?

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The time of the resurrection, according to Matthew, was Sunday at dawn, and in Mark the sun was rising, and in John it was dark.

Same event, SO many different versions

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According to Matthew, those witnessing the crucifixion are: many afar off, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and the mother of Zebedee’s children. But Mark and Luke tell of many afar off, Mark includes Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James the Less. John states Jesus’ mother stood at the cross, along with her sister and Mary Magdalene.

Was there a guard or not?

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Only the book of Matthew depicts a request for a guard to be placed at the door to Jesus’ tomb and for it to be sealed.

More evidence that the bible can’t be relied on

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Those who visit the tomb; according to Matthew, the two Marys. Mark says it was the two Marys, Joses and Salome. Luke says the two Marys, Joanna, other women and Peter. John says Mary Magdalene alone (!?), and later Peter and John.

Yeah, that makes sense

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In the book of Matthew it says the guard at the tomb of Jesus was paid to tell everyone that the disciples stole Jesus’ body. No other Gospel mentions this. So let me understand, the guard requested by the Jews, who believed the disciples were going to steal Jesus’ body, and assigned by Pilate to guard Jesus’ tomb, claims to have witnessed the disciples stealing Jesus’ body just as the Jews had feared would occur and that Jesus wasn’t in fact resurrected from the dead and Matthew quickly explains that, oh yeah, he was paid to say that.

The Inconsistincies of The Ascension

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The AscensionMatthew & John do not mention the ascension of Jesus into heaven at all. Mark casually states that an ever morphing Jesus was received into heaven after scolding the disciples (they had doubted word of his resurrection!) (assumedly) in Jerusalem. Luke says Jesus led the disciples to Bethany and while he blessed them, he was parted from them and carried up into heaven. Such a significant event and yet treated so off-hand and perfunctory and only two of the apostles mention it and they can’t agree on the location. But then Acts contradicts all four stating that Jesus visited the apostles for forty days and “…while they beheld, he was taken up: and a cloud received him out of their sight.” Acts 1:3-11. AND Paul states 500 people saw Jesus, even claiming he (Paul) saw him. I Cor. 15:6, 8. AND it reveals the primitive way the writers of the bible thought. WHERE DID THEY THINK HEAVEN WAS? Floating on some cloud somewhere so Jesus could just glide on up and come in for a perfect landing on an airstrip made of gold?

Why doesn’t the math in the bible EVER add up?

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According to Matthew there were 63 generations between Adam and Jesus. How can this be if men such as Adam (930 years) and Methuselah (969 years) lived so long? And did any women live that long? If not, why not? Is that why men had so many wives and concubines?

NEW vs. OLD (different religions, different gods)

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The Old and New Testaments seem to represent two different religions and two different gods. The God of the Old is all about the Jews and the Gentiles (non Jews) are basically doomed. The God of the New basically reverses this, even consigning his former favorites to burn in hell for continuing to trust in the ‘Old Promise’. AND if one believes the words of Joseph Smith (Mormonism) then God changes his mind once again (and in a pretty drastic way, at that), the same of one who believes in Mohammed’s words.

The Two Gods of the Bible

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God of the Old Testament would enact great and immediate revenge on those who opposed him or challenged him. The New Testament God, by comparison, is practically impotent. Are people aware that the reason the old and new testament are usually separate books is because they represent two different religions and two different gods?

I need a little clarification here

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John 3:36 says only belief in Jesus is necessary to get into heaven but James 2:26 says “…Faith without works is dead.” suggesting that more than just belief in Jesus is required. So which is it?

Incest is best … or not

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Why is incest or brothers having sex with brother’s widows etc depicted in the bible but in Lev. 18:6, 9, 15, 16, 20 it clearly says it is a no-no? “None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness:… The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover … Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy daughter in law: she is thy son’s wife; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness … Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy brother’s wife: it is thy brother’s nakedness … Moreover thou shalt not lie carnally with thy neighbour’s wife, to defile thyself with her.”